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Noah Rattler's avatar

What this initially brings to my mind is an explanation of the word Individual that I was given years ago, mixing the indivisible self with its entanglement with the Dual nature of every living (existing?) thing. Both are true.

It also brought up Wegner's "illusion of conscious will" which I read-at several times, but haven't finished because it kept craving my mind open 😳

In the current moment, it reminds me of the societal imposed goal of rugged individualism and the consequences of such motivations on America's fate..

Personally, this has definitely been the major self debate of my life, balancing what motivations are mine with those that were given to me

Oh, and the accent have me Eastern European, but the addition of it made me glad that I listen to you read it instead of the AI

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Mona Mona's avatar

LIstened/read this a couple times -- fun read! -- and it made me think about a lot of related and tangential things, but the image-idea that I got to at the end is this: Let's talk about autonomy in the writing process. There are people who want to know in advance what they are going to write about, and so they create an outline as a way of pre-organizing their ideas. Maybe it pays off, if they save time and efforts in editing the piece at the end. Having to cut out pieces of what you wrote, reorder paragraphs, etc, all of that can be un-fun for some people.

Then there are those who eschew using outlines because they... because I don't know in advance what I think about something and I want to be able to think my way through it as I write. Writing is how I get clarity about what I want to say. Having to follow an outline seems like pre-determining thought, and then what is the point of writing it then. Also, the editing work of cutting and reorganizing, much like puzzle work, is the really fun part. It's the work of assembling a piece, like creating a collage, the beauty is in the relationships that form in the in-between spaces.

I suspect that those who use outlines, or pre-organize their ideas, are carving out a space in which they can maximize their freedom -- the limits themselves, like a discipline within which context greatness can be achieved. Not sure why I think of this, but as a dancer can learn ballet and the rigidity of those movements then after decide to break all the rules and do it differently, the rebellion only means something against the discipline. I suspect it is easier and better to write well, or do anything well, from the acceptance of some boundaries, rules, or discipline. I can rationally see this. But I can't make myself do it. It would be so boring, so focused on producing some end result. I suspect that those for whom writing is a process, and a rather mysterious one at that, meandering is the way to enjoy its belabouring.

Maybe autonomy is more like a verb, it is a doing, and autonomy can be done is all the ways. Maybe there is no paradox, no contradiction in that some people like the outlines to play out of, and some see their work as colouring outside the lines. Could they both be ways to practice autonomy, and there are probably more than two ways.

You can falsely believe that you are free and acting autonomously so long as you never try to exercise it. Like having health insurance, you think you're covered until you try to use it. I believe many of us struggle with autonomy and freedom because we get right up to the line of doing the thing and it can be scary. Trying to write something that is true and authentic, risks writing something that is unlike what is accepted, acceptable, and even recognizable. We may surprise even ourselves.

Already I've said too much. Thanks for the opportunity to do some thinking here....

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